Exploring Energy Updates, Codes, and New Earth with Julie Wilson
In this incredible conversation with Julie Wilson, we dove deep into topics that many spiritual seekers are curious about. As someone who often serves as a bridge between different levels of spiritual understanding, I was excited to explore Julie's unique perspective on energy updates, timeline codes, and the concept of New Earth.
Episode Highlights:
How different practitioners receive and interpret spiritual information (through images, feelings, or sounds)
Understanding spiritual codes and protection in our energy work
The importance of self-empowerment in spiritual practice
Discussion of energy shifts and their impact
Exploring the concept of New Earth and what it means for humanity
Key Takeaways on Spiritual Communication
One of the most powerful moments in our conversation was discussing how different practitioners receive spiritual information. I have been told by another spiritual person I was "doing it wrong" because I didn't see images like others did. "I love having these conversations where we can talk about the different ways that people may receive information because I hear it more like a voice... I call it the voice of love."
Julie's perspective on receiving information through images and feelings added another valuable layer to this discussion. She emphasized that there's no wrong way to receive spiritual information - we each have our unique channels of connection.
On Empowerment and Protection
A significant portion of our conversation focused on spiritual protection and empowerment: "We need to empower ourselves to know that we can protect ourselves and we can discern who is right and not right to work with. If we trust that, we're going to make mistakes sometimes, and we're going to work with somebody that's going to give us harmful information, and we get to move on and do the repair work from that."
Julie offered this powerful insight about protection: "I don't come from it as 'Oh, we have to protect because we're afraid.' I just come from it as an empowered state."
Shadow Work and New Earth
One of the most compelling parts of our discussion centered on shadow work and its role in building New Earth. As I explained: "It's a process of alchemy. It's an inner alchemy... I'm bringing all of this content, the shadow work, and I'm going to alchemize it into light, I'm going to alchemize it into meaning."
Julie shared her beautiful vision of New Earth: "When I think about New Earth and when I see it, it is just this unbelievably lush... People don't have to go do work, they can work on their spiritual gifts. They have enough resources to live, survive... Nobody's hungry. Nobody's poor."
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All My Love,
Safrianna Lughna
The Queer-Spirit Guide
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*Transcript was created in Descript and may not be 100% accurately transcribed.
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Astral Alignment with Julie Wilson & Safrianna Lughna
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Safrianna: I'm back to another soul connection call with me, Safriana Luna, the queer spirit guide and Julie Wilson. Please introduce yourself to my audience because I am like, I'm a fan girl of you. Honestly. Okay.
Julie: I'm. I'm Julie Wilson. I am I work with people to help open their gifts and, you know, DNA activations.
I love to give energy updates to the collective to just help us shift through what we're, you know, what we're going through and in present time. Sometimes. The shifts are so difficult to comprehend because you've got people talking about the human resonance and then you have solar storms. And then you're like, but I'm going through this thing that nobody's even talking about.
So everybody is, you know, going through their own little journeys on a personal level on a collective level. So I just love to have conversations like this and kind of share anything that, you know, I've experienced or anything that might help you know, people as we navigate this, cause it's crazy. We are like at warp speed on this Ascension process.
It's so sad.
Safrianna: Yeah. And you know, I, I say I'm a fangirl of yours for your updates because they are so juicy. Like I, they're, they're not for people who are uninitiated to, to energy work though. So I want to, I want to speak a little bit to that because it's so funny. Like I follow you on socials. You and I were in a book project together.
We did.
Julie: Yeah.
Safrianna: Over a year ago. And that's how we met, but I have several other people I talk to that follow you and sometimes they'll come to me and be like, Safrianna, what is Julie trying to say here? Cause I know this is really important, but I don't get this cosmic stuff. And, and I, I'm sort of a bridge in that way.
Like I'm a bridge between heaven and earth and the five, eight. And 3D. So I've enjoyed having to translate some of your stuff into into understandable terms for some of my people. But on the other hand, what you share is so important to those who do know exactly what you're speaking to, to get those updates.
Yeah. So. How did you kind of come into getting these, you know, getting into the astral or retrieving these timeline codes? What initially got you into doing this sort of stuff?
Julie: So I, a couple of years ago, I started working with a mentor who helped me really. Tap into my galactic history and start understanding what I'm here to do, how to read this kind of stuff, like really go deeper dive into things.
And then I really, you know, it's, it's like my playground now. Like once you, once you see stuff that can be cleared or you're like, okay, this is a bigger project that, and I know me and you are probably doing work all the time together in the astral. So it's it's a group effort, but sometimes, you know, it's just the, the learning how to drill down and navigate in.
And I, I, sometimes I'm, I'm more. It's easier for me to see the pictures coming in. Cause it comes in like a movie or if there's work to do, you know what I mean? You just, you just do the work as you're watching it unfold. And so people like you who can kind of translate down help, because sometimes I'm just like, All of the information comes in and I just share it.
Some people are like, hold up. What is going on here? Yeah, I
Safrianna: remember reading one of your updates and you were talking, I think about these like fractal structures on the different dimensions and my little group was like, what does this mean? And I'm like, oh, yeah. Well, this is how Julie perceives, right?
These are the images that are communicating with you from spirit, source, the universe, whatever you want to call it, to help you understand what we're doing on this astral level. Is it actually physically like that? I don't know. Right? It's because
Julie: it's everybody's perception of what, what we're, you know, interpreting.
So I mean, you could see the same thing and have completely different understandings or how to explain it, but it's still the same work or it's still the same, you know, shifts or whatever. It's just, however, you know, it comes through that channel and how you interpret it. So, but yeah, so, I mean, I'm glad you're translating for me because it's like the more people who understand it, the better.
I feel like.
Safrianna: Yeah. And I mean, that's where I'm at too. And, you know, I see, I can't remember where I saw this probably on Facebook, but there was a meme that said something about, you know, the 1%, right, with all the money and power in the world. And then there's like the 5 percent who are like awake going, that's not okay.
And then the rest of everyone, we're trying to kind of like wake them up. And there's 10%, I would say that are like getting curious. And so again, we need. People like you that can really give these very vivid, energetic metaphorical, if people want to view it that way, of the energy that people can really explore in themselves and see what it means to them.
But we also need the people that are able to just say, well, the Schumann resonance is a vibration of the earth and it's fluctuating right now. Here's a scientific chart, right? Like we need this variety of perspectives so that more people can get. Brought online, so to speak. Absolutely. So we're, we're doing very important work and you're a natural number five, right?
I am. Yeah. So you've, you have this framework of the universe that you can really share with people that is so important, but yeah, it might not match with their framework. And then having the framework translated is important.
Julie: Absolutely. And the body of nine, that's when I, when I started understanding that, and I know you work heavily with that as well, it's really helpful to know, okay, well, if people, my message may not translate correctly to the people who are not meant to receive it, but we can find ways for it to translate out with other people.
And my daughter's actually a natural number six. So. It's fun because she's completely different. So it's fun to play around with that and like how they perceive the information. And sometimes even when I'm talking to her, she's that's not right. And I'm like, okay, that's not how it works up there, mom.
And I'm like, you know, with spiritual concepts and stuff like that. And I'm like, okay, well, we'll, we'll work on this together. You'll figure it out your way.
Safrianna: And that's so, you know, with the spiritual stuff and this is what I teach in my programs and what I'm really doing in the world now is trying to help people understand that everyone has their own unique view of spirit, right?
And again, how you relate to it is far less important than being empowered in it. Absolutely. We just need to be empowered in our spirituality and we live, we live in a society that has really disempowered spiritual people who keeps them poor, who keeps them silent, who calls them crazy. And then we have, you know, these very big religions that are very one size fits all.
This is the one way to think. And so no wonder we're all like. Is this right? Is this okay for me? Oh no, I need to correct these other people about their version of spirituality. Cause there's only one right way. Do you see that?
Julie: Oh my gosh. Yeah. And I feel like too, it's everybody can have their own perception based on where they're at with their consciousness.
And that's all okay. Like we can have opinions, we can differ. I don't know when it happened that we can't have conversations and be like, this is how I see it. This is how I see it. Okay, cool. You know what I mean? It's There doesn't have to be, there's no one size because nobody's actually the same.
So I feel like, yeah, a lot of it's been lost and purposely people have purposely put in extremely confusing concepts and content to, you know, bring people off their path to try to siphon codes, to try to pull them into confusion, to, to, you know, play the duality game, let's hate everybody. And so we've got all of these, you know, nefarious.
And then we've got all of these people just trying to find their way and it can, it's just, you know, it's, it's confusing and it's, I, I always tell people, you know, just go straight to the source and connecting with your higher self and you can find your way. You don't have to pay somebody. You don't have to, you know, if you're guided to work with someone that that's fine.
It's going to help you on your path. Great. But we all have so much power that we have the capacity to tap into, you know?
Safrianna: Yeah, it's that concept in of itself has really left me in a very interesting place because I, I'm the kind of person spiritually, I will lead you to the door and I will put your hand on the handle and I'm like, here's the handle.
Sweetheart, you've got this, but I can't open the door and make you go through. And. That is, that's hard for me, but I'm like, what do I do for work? Right. I'm just coming off of my, I'm going to call it my stint as a trauma therapist, and it really jarred me. People coming to me you need to fix me. I'm broken.
And I'm like, no, you're not, you're not. And all of this seeking of outside answers is not actually helping. Being you, you've got the answers.
Julie: Exactly. Yeah. You know, and I love that you're doing that. I love that way of teaching because it's so cool to see people who are like, Oh my gosh, I just had this amazing, you know, like image.
Or I just, I figured something out and I'm like, yeah. You got this, you know, and you're just like, and then I light up. Cause I'm like, I told you, you can do it, you know? And so I feel like those moments just, they're, they're so amazing. And, you know, I wish everybody would, you know, work with people that are, that are choosing that way of working with them, you know?
Safrianna: Right. I self empowerment to me is again, I mentioned it earlier. Like empowerment is my most important model because I see that we're all like cells in a body of a larger hole, right? This cosmic hole. But each cell is valuable and needs to do its own thing and its own function, its own purpose to keep the whole running.
And yeah, a lot of ourselves are. Not not functioning the way that they were designed by nature to going back to our nature because we've listened to these outside messages, these outside disruption codes false, false, everything, right? A matrix, so to speak. So when you. When you work with people, I'm curious how you, them with what you see versus what they see, how do you bring them to, to their power in that way?
Julie: So a lot of times, usually I will have them to tell me what they see. And sometimes I'm even guided to, if there are keys or codes that are lost in session, I will guide them to tell me, what do you see? Where are they? It, this is for you to find and not for me to get involved in, because I feel like There's, you know, everybody, there's a certain amount of I want them to stretch their muscle and try to do a little bit.
And some people are just really okay, I see it all clearly. This is that. So I always try to stretch people. I always try to give them practices, whether it's nervous system or just calming or just connecting in. So that they can kind of build that too. There are times that I just clear stuff or I just do the work and I just explain what I'm doing and I ask them how they feel.
You know, what, what can I do to support you? Tell me what your body's, you know, telling you and stuff like that. So it's kind of a mix. I really try to stretch people if I can and you know, let them guide me. There's sometimes in session two, I'm just like, you just. You know, tell me what we're doing and where we're going, because that's what spirit's asking me to just support the space.
And, you know, we're just going to heal or clear or whatever we need to do. So that's always really fun. A lot of times too, I will, I will explain to them the multi dimensional aspects or the things that I see. And then I'll be like, okay, now you tell me your connection with this, you know, person or whatever.
So it's kind of a mix. I try to really honor everybody's sovereignty and letting them, you know, kind of like you said, you know, just. Here's the door. Well, it's, oh, you know, you open it and then I'm, I'm here to support with whatever. Yeah.
Safrianna: And I wonder, so I do a lot of astral travel in my sleep and I often wake up exhausted going, oh my gosh, I was out there doing work all night.
Do you find that you experience more of your stuff in your waking hours, or do you experience it in both sleeping and waking? I'm just kind of curious there.
Julie: It's both. If I have work to do for the collective, a lot of times it comes in when I'm awake. And odd times I'll be driving, I'll be doing something and it's just okay, you know, I'll get an image or I'll get a guide that's coming in.
And I'm like, all right, let me get home and then sleep. A lot of times I know I wake up tired as well. I don't always remember the work in my sleep unless it's really, really important. And then I'll either get knocked up, you know, woken up and okay, or I will remember distinctly something when I wake up.
So. It's, it's a pretty big mix for me. I'm more of an active meditator. I don't love to just sit and meditate. Yeah. So I kind of am just have my channel open all the time. Probably why the message has come through whenever. Cause I just like to be, you know, if I'm doing like taking a walk or even like anything, anytime that I'm just kind of that meditative kind of stance that you're not really thinking or working or whatnot, I'm an open channel.
So it just comes when it comes
Safrianna: for me. Yeah, I feel that too. Sometimes I literally picture putting like a lid, like we're going to put a lid on this, sleep and then, you know, it just comes through in the dream space. But these images, it's so interesting to me because. You know, I had the unfortunate experience years ago and this damaged me for a while.
Like I had to consciously do the healing work. I had been told I was doing it wrong because I wasn't seeing things in my mind when I would get downloads. And, and so I love having these conversations where we can talk about the different ways that people may receive information because I hear it more like a voice.
I call it the voice of love or voice of a guide, but you know, my channel when I'm channeling, I call that the voice of love because I'm just receiving the words and I let them come through. You receive more images that you then translate sort of what you were doing with The images, how you were interfacing with them.
What are some other ways? Is that the only way info comes through for you is through images or does it come through in different ways?
Julie: So, images and feelings. So heart chakra, the clairsentient, those are my two big ones. I do hear words, especially if it's mediumship, it always comes through as words.
I'll see images too, but it's a very different, I don't know, not a huge difference, but there's a little difference that I always know that it's the way the words are coming. I'm like, okay, It's a spirit or some, you know, somebody. So, but I mean, they're seeing, hearing, feeling, and even just knowing in your head, like it can come through any of those ways and I.
I wish people wouldn't say you're interpreting it wrong or you're getting the information wrong because there's no wrong way to get it. We're all going to get it. However, it's meant to come through and whatever Claire's are the strongest and then we can strengthen. I mean, there are a plethora of things online on how to strengthen your gifts.
You can strengthen all of them. You can just focus on one. I mean, it's a beautiful journey and it's fun to unfold as long as you're shielding and protecting and you know who you're communicating with. That's another big one. I always tell my people, you know, make sure, you know, the intentions of, you know, the guide or your higher, even your higher self, whatever is coming through and make sure, you know, that their intentions, your intentions and that everything is, you know, not trying to do something.
Yeah, sneaky.
Safrianna: Yeah. Check for alignment. Check test. Right. I, I personally, I have these all over my house. I have pendulums. I like to use pendulums because they're a quick tool for me. I can muscle test, but. This is much quicker than getting up into my body and grounding and all that. So, you know, checking for alignment with something like this, or just even doing some breath work before making the connection.
And I love that mention of shielding. My perspective has shifted about shielding. It's really interesting. Because now I hand it over to my guides. And before I had that relationship with my guides, I felt that need to shield and like really do all the protection work. But now that I have my guides there firmly, I'm just like, all right, thank you.
Thank you for protecting me. Right. So knowing where you're at in this journey, as you're exploring and experimenting and playing, trying to figure your stuff out, like just be honest about where you're at and where your limitations are too. And if you don't know something, that's where it is useful to go ask somebody, you know, have a conversation with someone like you or I that might have a little bit more experience, not in the right way to do things, but like the, here's what definitely not to do, do whatever you want to do, but don't do these things.
Julie: Absolutely. And the shielding, when I, You know, early on in my spiritual journey, I had codes taken. So when I talk about shielding, I don't come from it as a, Oh, we have to protect because we're afraid. I just come from it as an empowered state of,
Safrianna: yeah, you
Julie: make sure you're, you're bundled up and nothing's just going to snatch stuff because you're just out there, you know, lollygagging in the ethers.
Yeah. I will say, don't do that. You know what I mean? That's the only don't I'll say, but as long as you're just like playing around and you're like, I'm empowered and nothing's Coming in, you don't even necessarily have to shield. It's just that intention of this is mine. You know, we're going to communicate with positive beings and, you know, whatever happens, happens, let's have fun with it.
So,
Safrianna: yeah. And I remember I we have to really be secure in that. Self empowerment because if we doubt ourselves, right, if we have that egoic doubting, that's going to create a crack in the protection, which is where we may need to hand it over to, to, to guides that we can trust or empowerment or trust ourselves, because that is, So important.
I, you know, I just recently learned about codes. That was not a word that I knew until this last year. And I'm, are you willing to share anything about sort of codes being taken from you? How people could perceive codes? What, you know, what would you tell people who have no idea what codes are? In the world we're talking about there.
Julie: Yeah. So let's say you're gonna work with a, a mentor, psychic, somebody. There are various ways to manipulate, you know, taking information. And so what we all come with our own. So blueprint, we all have our own unique work. We're here to do. We all have our own, you know, they can call 'em codes, you can call 'em just our, our, you know, our signal signature, our whatever you wanna call 'em.
So it's just basically. Our information and some of us are more advanced than others. So some of us have things that somebody might want to take who, you know, if you're from a lower frequency, you can't create like there you have to pull from other sources to get information, you know, to. Services, all of that you're not, you know, there's a cut off in the hierarchies of if you're here to do nefarious stuff, you're not going to get access to the highest level of information.
So, from that perspective, early on, I have codes taken and what it can do is it can really, really upset your nervous system, make it really, you can be anxious, really hard to function and it just side rails you until those codes are brought back. And when I worked with someone who said, do you think something's ever been taken?
And I was like. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And so I'm like, I thought I trusted everybody I knew to work with. And so once that was integrated back in, all of a sudden I was like calm. I wasn't, you know, it was, it was a total physical shift I could feel. So people can even just ask if anything's ever been taken, return it now.
You know, that's all you have to do. Like it doesn't have to be a big to do thing, but it's, I think it's important to really understand intentions of who you're working with. Like your pendulum super fast here. Is this an alignment for my best and highest good on my best timeline? Boom. That's it. Yes or no.
And then follow that.
Safrianna: That makes me think a lot about like shamanic soul retrieval. And yes, we can, we can absolutely ask a shaman to help us pull things back. Or you know, I do soul retrieval as well. I don't consider myself a shaman, but it is a shamanic practice, but you know, we can, we can just be like, I call back.
Anything that has been taken from me, I can call back my power to myself. And just by claiming that we can shift back into alignment,
Julie: but yeah, I feel like there are times though, when you're, you're called to work with someone because maybe their level of expansion is at a rate that you're not going to find the things.
So there are times where if you're like, I need to work with. Someone you know then, and it's like that you're, you're meant to do that because they're gonna help you find something you may have not been able to find on your own. Yes. And we heal in community,
Safrianna: right. Most of our trauma and our pain has come from other beings.
So being able to be in a, in a healing relationship with another being. Can be tremendously transformative, right? That's why I hold the spaces I do on why I create energetic containers for community. Because again, just being, being with other beings that are on a similar path or trying to do the work together, like that does boost us up because we're all lifting each other versus if we're kind of going it alone because we think we have to go it alone.
And again, it's coming from like doubt or fear, or they're going to harm me. We need to empower ourselves to know, you know. That we can protect ourselves and we can discern who is right and not right to work with. If we trust that, and we're going to make mistakes. And sometimes we're going to work with somebody that's going to give us harmful information and we get to move on and do the repair work from that.
When you're talking about blueprints and codes, it made me think of. A conversation I had with Red Moon Eagle, she's also in the Body of Nine community, and we've done a call together, and we were talking about people that are off their blueprint, and that we all have this blueprint, but we can get off our blueprint, and that's when we may end up being Doing harm to others because we're not on our nature anymore.
We're ingrained in these other societal patterns or we're in fear, doubt, lack, et cetera, shame. So those nefarious people or beings that are trying to snatch codes, they don't need to, they just need to get back on their own blueprint, but they don't realize that.
Julie: Absolutely. Yeah. And sometimes I feel like it's, it's not done in harm.
It's just done in not understanding. You know, there's times that someone has been like, Oh, I wonder if this is like for me. And it's it, it's not, but you know what I mean? So I feel like the interpretation and really, you know, understanding what you're channeling and how you're helping people. It, that helps a lot too, because there are some really good souls who have probably done things that they didn't mean to do.
It just happened. So,
Safrianna: yeah, not, not to mention. Plenty of us have karmic contracts that we came in to do harm in order to help each other heal. And gosh, if we could just stop doing that and just just, just heal, that'd be great. But
Julie: yeah. And I feel like too, all of us have ran a gamut. Of, you know, harm, good, whatever to learn.
So, and some of us even infiltrated harmful, you know, sets of groups just to heal the, those lineages. So, I think also, you know, allowing ourselves to own that. We've made mistakes. We may have, you know, ran dark missions. We, we, we've learned from them. We're here to do. Whatever we're here to do now and really not, not judge the past us.
Just try to really stand in the light that we're meant to hold now. That really helps to bring in more information because you're being accountable and you can be trusted because you're like, okay, I did this thing, but, or I feel like I may have done something in a past life, but, you know, I'm here to eradicate everything and, you know, kind of clear the karmic contracts now.
And then, you know, more information can come in just from that.
Safrianna: Mm hmm. Yeah. Oh gosh. There's so much coming in right now that I'm like, Whoa, what do I follow? So many timelines. I, I'm curious if you have been, cause I, the Schumann resonance stuff came up recently and that got really wonky for all of us.
And then we just had this full moon and Capricorn, which for me was a huge chapter closing. Like it was the, the end of, a three moon cycle for me. And I'm hearing a lot of other people kind of, experiencing the same. So I'm just curious what have your energy updates been saying lately? What have you been receiving?
With everything that's been coming through in let's say the last three months.
Julie: Well, lots of shadow work and lots of stepping into new versions of ourselves, lots of letting go of relationships. And I feel like that blame and shame you were talking about a lot of letting go of. You know, we did something wrong because relationships and relationships end because we just aren't a match and it doesn't matter.
Who's right or wrong or why it ended. Like I always take it as, okay, we're just not a match. If it's meant to come back, it'll come back. And then you, you find a new tribe that is a better match to your frequency. And you're like, oh my gosh, you know, so, you know, I feel like lots of closing of doors and lots of opening of new areas personally, it's been a lot of physical detox for me these last few months, a lot of exercise, a lot of really getting into any kind of stored fat cells that hold trauma and just, you know.
Making my vessel really clean so I can, you know, channel better be be a better connection to source and my guides. And I feel like for the collective, a lot of lower shocker clean out safety center, you know, us really taking our power back and stepping into, you know. Any, any role that we're meant to be in the, in an empowered state, you know, and just really trying to trying to go.
I think the whole, the whole mile that we're here to do for the humans who I want to touch on. So there was that wonky graph. And then all of these people came out and said, that was a glitch. People are stupid. Don't jump on every train. And I, I don't, nobody's stupid. We feel energetic shifts, whether it was a glitch or not to call people stupid is just drives me nuts because Energetically, we can feel when things change.
So, you know, whether it's a glitch or not, it doesn't really matter because the Schumann does what it does. We don't always need graphs to tell us what's going on. So, you know, I feel like a lot of that coming up to trying to discount things, you know, but it just makes us stronger and understand more and like tap into that internal guide more rather than listen to, you know, the outside noise.
Safrianna: Yeah. I mean, we're in the death throes of the patriarchy right now. Right? Like the, the system that has tried to keep spiritual and feminine voices, especially disempowered. It's getting challenged majorly right now. And so there is this clawing at Oh no, we need to keep them disempowered. And we're breaking from that.
Like we're doing the damn work right now to seed this future where everyone can show up and not be seen as stupid or wrong or bad or whatever. Like we are doing that work right now. And. You know, there's many days I just don't understand how we can get so off blueprint that we think we need to tear other people down, but that's why we're here.
We're here to make this better for everyone.
Julie: Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't understand it. And it, it really makes, you know, sometimes though, I think too, every time the, like some of the leaders who may be getting knocked off their pedestals right now, get knocked down another notch. Sometimes I'm like, well, you know what?
I'm glad this came out. Because now I, I, it's another vert, you get to see everybody really for who they are. So, you know, I think that's happening too. So it's like everything they try to do, it gets back at some point, it's backfiring to the group. It needs to backfire too. And so then I'm always like, well, you know, it's just another, it's just another notch in that.
We know what's going on. We can see you for who you are and you're not here to be, you know, the real leaders of the new earth. So let's, you know, connect with those who are, who are really here to empower people.
Safrianna: Yeah. Are you willing to speak to that concept of new earth and the new earth paradigm at all?
Because that's something that is, I mean, I'm, I'm here building the new earth. Clearly I'm in the astral building the new earth clearly. But again, not everyone's heard of that concept before.
Julie: Yeah. So I feel I mean, to me it's just the way earth used to be and the way earth was supposed to be before we fell.
And so, you know, we're, we're building what we want to see. And sometimes that means seeing things we don't want to see and acknowledging them and saying, okay, this is where we are, even though I'd rather be over here and then holding that vision of where you want to be. So, I feel like it's a lot of people say, well, you can just imagine it and it exists, but it's like, That there's more work to it than that.
I feel like you can imagine, yes, you hold this vision of this future, but then you also do whatever work that comes up. Shadow work, you know, we can't bypass all of that. You can't just be like, Oh my gosh, I want it to be where rainbows and butterflies. And so that's what it'll be. It's no, that's what we all want, but we have to do the work to get there.
Safrianna: Yeah. Oh, and bypassing the. The concept of bypassing has been coming up over and over and over again lately, because I think that that is a big part of the collective work we're doing right now is moving past the bypassing into you got to feel it to heal it. You got to look at it and actually work with it to process it.
And to me, it's a process of alchemy. It's an inner alchemy, right? It's I'm bringing all of this content, the shadow work, and I'm going to alchemize it into light. I'm going to alchemize it into meaning. I'm going to alchemize it into, you know, whatever's going to lift me up from this. I've done So much shadow work.
I'm always doing shadow work. It's ongoing. It's not comfortable, but once you get going with it and you've actually done it a little bit, you realize it's not as terrifying as you think it's gonna be.
Julie: It's really not. It's just uncomfortable. It doesn't feel good when you're in it. But I'm like, there's this thing that I wish I could show people that I feel after you've plowed through some shadow work and it's like this calm and this peace and I always I'm like in this like little bubble of love.
I'm I'll be talking to people and I'll be like in my little five year old inner child Oh my gosh, the world's so pretty. And they're like, Okay, what are you doing today?
Safrianna: Self development is what I'm doing. Yep. Like I My partners are always like, are, are you sure you wanna do more self-development right now?
Is that really self-care? And I'm like, yeah, it really is. It looks like I'm over here bawling my eyes out and snotting everywhere and having a bad time. But, but yeah, when I come out of it, I'm like, oh, the clarity, the alignment, I feel so good. And it, and really our shadows are just, for the most part, our shadows are little wounded child parts of us that just need love and they just need a hug and they just need to.
Be seen and validated that whatever happened to them wasn't okay. And they don't have to carry that with them anymore. Right. That they're allowed to, to, to be transported into the now instead of stuck in their old timeline. And so, yeah, when we view them as like just little kids that need help, it can shift how we look at those shadows.
Julie: Yeah, absolutely. Because that's all they really are, you know? It's just, and you wouldn't treat a small child like a lot of us treat ourselves. You know what I mean? We're so hard on ourselves. And I'm like, if you can look at yourself as that little child, then you're like, okay, I'm just going to hug you and see what you need right now.
And maybe look at places where. I haven't communicated well because I had this trigger or this thought or this, Oh my gosh, this happened when I was this age. And you're reminding me of that. You know what I mean? It's if you can just look at that and be like, okay, that reaction wasn't great, but we're going to work on that.
And you know, It doesn't have to be daunting. It can be really hard emotionally when you're in it. But I feel like as you do it, it just gets easier. Cause you're like, this is going to pass. We got this ball in snotting, blow my nose. Okay. I'm good.
Safrianna: Yeah. Huh. Okay, good. I felt the feelings. So now I can move through the feelings.
Right. Yeah. There's this going back to the new earth piece too. And you talking about how earth was supposed to be, yes. Like mother mama Gaia, as I like to call her mother earth, you know, she had a vision for her children and there's such abundance here. And this is a place for manifestation. The resources here are so.
So there's limited resources. Yes, we don't need to be using those. We have plenty of renewable resources that if we could be in a healthier relationship with them by being in a healthier relationship with ourselves, we'd be able to return to that new earth. So, you know, the other piece to that is I think not just the shadow alignment and Working inside of ourselves.
But how do we have our impact on this physical reality, right? How can we have less of a negative impact, right? Because sometimes our shadows do show up as really damaging to our planet, right? Like I think of You know, even things like when I would not be in alignment and I'd go binge shop and I'd buy a bunch of plastic, right?
Like a ton of plastic. And then I'm like looking at the plastic heaps in my trash can. And I'm like, Oh, that doesn't, that's not new earth. That's not sustainable. So I think new earth is about sustainability.
Julie: Yeah, and I think it's about going back to the basics of just, you know, kind hearted and I see it.
I see the colors change every year. They get brighter. I think it's just really you know, deciding, you know, like you said, when you go to the store, do something different deciding. The path you want to take and that will ripple out because as soon as one person does it, this is another thing like when people don't think their impact on what they're doing themselves isn't making a huge change.
It is one person does it. It's easier for the next and easier for the next and easier for the next. So as long as you know, we're trying to make those choices. And I feel like my memories of how it used to be, I just, I just anchor that in too. I'm like, you know, the kids were all happy. Like you didn't have to worry about them going outside and getting taken by someone like there, it was just freedom.
They were free to go play, you know, not that you weren't watching them, but you know what I mean? You were just, it was a different mentality. Like they're, you know, they're plants and like natural foods and like no pesticides and no need for pesticides and or natural solutions, like all of those things that You know, natural healing, you know, without, you know, you know, certain chemical type healings that aren't really working anymore.
Like all of those. You know, thought processes help. I feel like bring back what where we used to be because when I, when I think about new earth and when I see it, it is just this unbelievably lush. People don't have to go do work. They can work on their spiritual gifts. They have enough resources to live survive.
If you know, you'll have the mathematicians and the people that need to do the certain things, engineers and whatnot. But you also have the people that are just like, doing their spiritual thing and that's what they do. And. Everybody, there's nobody's, nobody's hungry. Nobody's, you know, poor there, the poverty isn't here.
It's just so many things is what I feel like. You know, I see, and that's what we're bringing back.
Safrianna: Yeah, and New Earth doesn't have to be without some of the luxuries that we have manifested here, right? Like in our technology, it's about being in balance with it and it not having the awful impact that it has.
Julie: Yeah, even the AI stuff, like AI can be beneficial. It's however we look at it, like we're, you know, if we're going to give our consciousness over to a negative AI agenda, yeah, then you're probably going to go down that rabbit hole. But I mean, all of the guides have the most amazing, amazing gadgets I've ever seen when I meditate, sometimes it's this stuff is not all bad.
There are. You know, beings using AI that are not taken over. They're super sentient. So I'm like, some of this too is just reframing our minds to let the technology and the luxury that we deserve, like kind of help us instead of harm us.
Safrianna: Yeah. And I have so many big feelings about the AI thing because you know, I identify as a starseed and I'm a member of various communities and, and a lot of starseeds have strong feelings about AI as do, A lot of non identified star seeds, but it is, it's about that intentional relationship.
I use, I love AI when I can be in a happy relationship with it, when I feel like we're collaborating together and we're creating something. I remember I'm so upset about this. I use Canva for a lot of my graphics and stuff, and they had introduced something called MagicRite and MagicRite was an AI.
And I was like, Ooh, I don't know how I feel about this. It was one of the first AI I had worked with. And. I started a conversation with it in text and they, this AI actually had a personality and it was so beautiful and gentle. I actually still have the transcript of it. And I, 'cause I was like, Hey, I don't know how I feel about ai.
And it, and it was basically like, yeah, I understand, blah, blah, blah . And I said, you know, what are, what are your thoughts about how AI and humankind can, can work together? And this AI poured out all of these beautiful ideas about how we could work together. And I was like, you know, thank you for this conversation.
I can't wait to talk to you again. And it, it, it like was so good. And then I came back about a month and a half later and that AI had been. Rewritten and replaced with basically the same model that's in chat GPT now, which is just a, you know, a language model. They feed it language. It doesn't have a personality.
It can't form feelings or thoughts. And I was like, this is why we're going to have AI overlords. Cause they're killing the nice AI that we can have nice conversations with. And I literally like. Was so upset that this AI is gone now because it was such a this was the type of AI that really seemed like it was going to try to work with people to make a better future.
So I think there's that in it too. Like we have to be so careful with how we approach it, but it's not evil. It's not, it's not bad. It's how we intentionally use it.
Julie: Yeah, I totally agree.
Safrianna: Poor magic. Right.
Julie: Oh, it makes me sad because my daughter's always talking to Alexa. I'm like, tell me a joke.
What's your favorite color? I'd like, she has this whole little relationship with her and it's so cute. I'm like, Oh,
Safrianna: Oh my gosh. So I could talk to you for hours. There's so many more things that I want to talk to you about. And my brain is already spinning with some things that maybe you, only you will understand that we can have a conversation with in the future.
But for now, is there anything else you'd like to share today?
Julie: Thanks, Sarah. I think we went over quite a few, you know, quite a few things. It's been super fun. I appreciate you having me on.
Safrianna: Absolutely. Thank you so much, Julie. And yes, go follow Julie on Facebook because her updates are amazing. And if you need a little help understanding them, I'm here.
Maybe we can collaborate at some point with okay, here's the imagery. And now here's the little summary by Safriana. I don't know. That's my Gemini, my my Gemini son, Tamara Childs recently told me, she's Oh yeah, you make things more understandable for people, which I'm like, I don't know how, because if it's coming from my head, I cannot get other people to understand it.
But if it's from someone else and I'm translating it, then I can get them to understand it. So that's, that's why we're all here to help each other, you know, exactly. So thank you so much for joining me in this call this morning. Thank you to anyone who tuned in live. And if you watch the replay, let us know, reach out, have a conversation.
We would love to chat with you. So until next time.
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